Hi, could you give me some advice on how to set up a website elsewhere? I may decide to get my own domain one day and it certainly will not be feasible if I continue on Wealthy Affiliates. Basically, I need a good website to host my website for free for now and also the ability to move my domain over for a small fee if I wish to buy one in the future.
The thought of WA had been circulating around my mind this week, and wanted to drop in and share as how really difficult it’s been to write this week. After writing over 200,000 words in almost a year(more than 100% of members), I’ll have to discontinue my efforts in creating new conten. It doesn’t make sense for me to write write write-as they say and continue to be held back by little traffic and so much work for little monetization; there’s a sense in helping people, but to see little to nothing in monettization, am I wrong for thinking that? Further on, in relation to promoting WA, which Rattled through my mind about minutes ago, it’s very off center to have people in the make money online niche put a blog for example about how to setup a wordpress website, and then at the end tell them how WA helped them out and to sign up here. And here are the reasons…
Wealthy Affiliate is also an excellent place for those who want to have everything they will need in one place. From market research tools to web building tools to domain registration, website hosting, website backups, site security, and much more, it’s all in one place. AND all of those tools come with complete step-by-step training videos as well as a support community that can help you if you’re having trouble. If you don’t want to pay 10 different companies for 10 different services you’ll need to run your business, sign up with Wealthy Affiliate to get it all in one place. Wealthy Affiliate literally provides absolutely everything you’ll need to succeed with your online business.
Before I talk about some of the methods for making money online, I wanted to address the role of pain versus pleasure. Every decision that we make in life is weighed on a pain-versus-pleasure scale. We will always do more to avoid pain than we will to gain pleasure, plain and simple. However, this is also what holds us back from succeeding in any endeavor.
Build your audience on a course community: If you’re just getting started building an audience for yourself and want to leverage communities already actively looking for content you can choose to host and sell your online course on a site like Skillshare or Udemy. These are easy, cost-effective ways to build an audience and test your niche to see if there’s demand for it.
So, it is possible to make loads of money online, but not how most people are being led to believe. The best way to get rich online is to own a website like Wealthy Affiliate and get lots of people to join and then get a good percentage of those to pay you for the previlege of doing your marketing for you by trashing other websites. Failing that, the 2nd best way is to launch products that promise to show people how to make money online but don’t quite live up to that promise. Failing that, the 3rd way is to promote those products as an affiliate.

I am interested in promoting member-to-member opportunities. Not affiliate marketing. I have a website that generates leads each time I place ads. I pay for these ads. Does WA show how to generate traffic to other types of sites such as member-to-member sites? Many affiliate opportunities I have seen only offer $19 to perhaps $80 per sale. Member-to-member opportunities earn $250 – $1,000 per sale. Since it is just as easy to make a $19 sale as it is to make a $1,000 sale, I prefer to get paid $1,000 instead of $19 or so. My capture page is below. I am looking to generate leads at a lower cost. Thank you.
If you’re a fitness buff and have the right combination of charisma and business sense, working as a part-time online personal trainer can be both physically and financially rewarding. Once you build up a reputation and client base for yourself, it could easily turn into a full-time endeavor for you. Check out this interview with several fitness blog owners who are making a living online, from MonetizePros. As well, I'd recommend checking out this resource if you want to take this business idea seriously and get started with a business plan for your personal fitness trainer business today.
Great post , I do read a lot of the Nichehacks articles and this one is so true. At the moment I am in a niche I'm passionate about and yes although I am primarily using Amazon to monetize my site, I will be branching out to use other methods very soon. It frightens me to think the plug can be pulled at any time! I intent to use other affiliate programs as well as Amazon, maybe Google Adsense, I'm not sure yet, some digital products and also to build an email list.
I opened an account with wealthy affiliate 2016 but since then I have not done anything with it since I have to upgrade to premium before I can make money from it…and I happen to come across it again this time. So please I really want to know, if it really works and all the proves are not just mere lies to get people clicking on there links, how long does it take to get money from it. Is it possible to make some reasonable money the same month I upgrade to premium?
Next, you need to set up and build your YouTube channel. Your YouTube channel is your homebase for all your content. If you already have a Google account for Gmail or Google Drive, then you can use that to log-in to YouTube and start setting up your channel. Pick a username that works for you and is memorable (if you’re using an existing Google account you’ll have to edit your username in Google+).
An online business model I love is utilized by GetVoiP, an affiliate marketer based in New York. GetVoiP acts as an agent for business communication providers. They maintain updated listings of VoiP providers, including ratings, comparisons, consumer reviews, in-depth knowledge of market and end-user trends, and expert opinions from business professionals on a variety of topics related to business consumers. By not only keeping abreast of news, but providing detailed analysis of products being offered, GetVoiP is able to generate traffic to their site and increase their clout with businesses.

Now, making money online should seem like a pleasurable activity. Why wouldn't we do just about anything to see things through, since it would be a major source of pleasure, right? Wrong. In the beginning, like anything else, we might get really excited about it. We might also set our hopes very high. But that all comes crashing down when we begin to fail.

If someone cancels an order it won’t disappear from the Orders report, it’ll just never appear under Earnings because the item never shipped. Bear in mind that some items take a long time to ship, or may be temporarily out of stock. It could also be the customer asked for the complete order to be shipped at the same time, which would delay earnings if all ten products are from the same customer order.
Provide excellent customer service. Answer any questions buyers post as quickly as possible. Be professional and courteous. Positive communication builds your reputation with buyers and gets you return business. Also, package your product well and ship it out quickly. Allowing an item to become damaged or taking too long to ship can negatively affect your reputation among buyers. Wrap all items, especially fragile ones, in appropriate packaging. Commit to shipping items as soon as you receive payment.[32]

I canceled my Premium Membership now after 1 year. Today I wanted to sign in as a free member, but they give me no access. Only 2 Websites which I have paid for, I can transfer this in the next 30 days… But unfortunately, I will get the EPP Code for 1 website on my email address which is a host on WA. I wrote now Kyle and hope that he will send me the code or give me 1-day access to my Email Hosts there. That is very strange what they do. But I think I have to subscribe for 1 Month to get this 🙁


I don't have time to la-dee-dah here. Just tell me where to go! If I feel that I need to take a few steps back I will. But no. Kyle HIMSELF made a rude comment to me. This girl suggested that I watch the Alphabet Soup section of the training, that it would help. I said this was for keyword help, and I don't need that. Kyle said that if I didn't know what keywords were for, then I had no business being on the internet. Excuse me??? I was simply stating that SHE did not understand, and led me somewhere I ALREADY KNEW ABOUT. He was rude. And within seconds revoked my ability to respond with his powerful finger. 
You get to hand-pick what you promote. Unlike display ad systems that typically choose which brands serve ads on your WordPress site, you have total control over this with Amazon affiliate links. You’ll never have to worry about a competitor’s link showing up on your site and the link will always be relevant to the content that it appears within or beside--which will improve its chances of getting clicked.
Please note that some of the links below are affiliate links and at no additional cost to you, I will earn a commission. Know that I only recommend products, tools and learning resources I've personally used and believe are genuinely helpful, not because of the small commissions I make if you decide to purchase them. Most of all, I would never advocate for buying something that you can't afford or that you're not yet ready to implement.
Set up a website. Professional or business websites can also use the Affiliate program. However, they are best used with people who do not sell similar products on their website, since Amazon's marketplace can drive business away. If you have a website promoting different products, a club, a non-profit or a service, then you can recommend quality products on your site and make money doing it.
And finally, I find that it is almost too easy to communicate with people! I love helping people and meeting new people in the industry, but as a successful affiliate marketer, I do get bombarded with so many questions from people I don’t even know. For that reason, I try to keep my responses prioritized by always responding to those who I referred through my affiliate link. Heck, they helped me earn a few bucks, so why shouldn’t they get priority? While this system works, I do sometimes feel bad at my super late response times for many of those trying to get some help.
Good comment Jason, at some time in the future Amazon may decide they have so much market share they don't need affiliates anyway. I mean, if you're just sending them people who are already Amazon customers there's not so much benefit there for them. Or they may decide to only work with select HIGH QUALITY affiliates and the average "affiliate site" owner will not be chosen.
One thought would be to dispute any credit card payments to WA you may have made where you feel they did not provide the service promised. I believe you may have up to 180 days to make a dispute. Your credit card company will handle the dispute on your behalf and make a determination. I’m not an expert or lawyer but you may be able to get the month’s payment back where they shut your promised services out. Just a thought. Good luck!
Great review or anti-review ??? Wish I had read this article a few months ago . I parted ways with WA around a month ago . I have been out here still pursuing my interest and it’s pretty FREAKIN rough . Just this afternoon i found myself engaged in a three hour batitle royal with Jetpack , WordPress , and the God that is Google over one post . Wealthy Affiliate is like that way cool app you’ve been wanting and the download is freeee , it’s just that , We’ll …. you need $575.00 in memberships , plug-ins and add-ons to make the damn thing work . Plus , they stole my domain !!! I been out here on my own for a month . I’ve pulled in $11 bucks . So yeah , you could say I’m Ballin. UP YOURS KYLE & CARSON !!!!!!!!!
Udemy.com – Udemy is an online training platform where “instructors” can create courses and sell them to “students”. There are some extremely high-quality courses on Udemy created by high-quality instructors who really have made a lot of money online, but there are a lot of very low-quality courses as well. Most of the higher quality courses are quite expensive, sometimes exceeding $100. While the training might be good, the training on Wealthy Affiliate is excellent as well, plus you get all the tools, community, and support included as well. Once again, I believe Wealthy Affiliate is the better option.
But the main method that WA teaches these days – blogging about your favourite interest in the hope that some people will click your affiliate links and buy stuff – is a long hard road, and one that has a high chance of failure for a lot of people. But if you fail, WA will just say that you gave up too soon. What a convenient get-out clause for WA! If you succeed, WA takes the credit for showing you how to do it. But if you fail, it’s your own fault for giving up to early.
I hope they lost some business over the question. I am going to pay the $50 to get the month of access to move the site but plan address this issue while I have access. LOL. I said this would be the most expensive $50 they ever stole and I meant it! To answer your question It also states in the TOS that membership costs are paid a month in advance plus their tech supp and live chat specifically said “you have 30 days to move the site after cancelling”. I am not going to bother with a lawyer. Based on what I read they won’t be in business long anyway now that their marketing strategy has been sanctioned by the court.
Build your audience on a course community: If you’re just getting started building an audience for yourself and want to leverage communities already actively looking for content you can choose to host and sell your online course on a site like Skillshare or Udemy. These are easy, cost-effective ways to build an audience and test your niche to see if there’s demand for it.
One of the reasons I like Wealthy Affiliate is because it enables me to provide this blog for free to people, but also be able to sell a genuinely high-quality product that I know is always updated and provides a better service than I ever could. Plus, when people sign up using my affiliate link, I can still provide one-on-one coaching and support as a way to add value and as a “thank you” for signing up using my link. Wealthy Affiliate truly is a win-win-win setup.
Good comment Jason, at some time in the future Amazon may decide they have so much market share they don't need affiliates anyway. I mean, if you're just sending them people who are already Amazon customers there's not so much benefit there for them. Or they may decide to only work with select HIGH QUALITY affiliates and the average "affiliate site" owner will not be chosen.
They tell you that the first step in the process is to choose a niche. In my opinion, this should be pretty easy for you determine before you even decide to get started. If not, then internet marketing may not be for you. The reason I say this is due to the amount of effort required to build a profitable business from scratch. If you can’t think of one single thing that excites or interests you, then you are going to have an uphill struggle if you plan to make a go of it in affiliate marketing.
Research individual companies in your desired niche: If possible, it’s always better to become an affiliate directly with a company (if they have an internal affiliate program), as no one else will be dipping into your commission rate. This is the preferred route for most of the prominent affiliate marketers, including Pat Flynn. Unfortunately, it’s also the most work, as you’ll have to do the research yourself to see who offers programs (they’re usually listed in the website footer).
Another seemingly free site you can make money from is Wikipedia. People who say it’s easy to edit Wikipedia have clearly never tried editing Wikipedia – it’s a pain. Thankfully it’s a pain for companies as well, so many of them are willing to pay editors to assist them in the editing process. You’ll become a bounty hunter in a way, choosing your own lines to cross and keep. If editing is something you like to do, and you’re willing to put in the work it takes to learn Wikipedia’s dispute process, roll up your sleeves and try this one out.
I opened an account with wealthy affiliate 2016 but since then I have not done anything with it since I have to upgrade to premium before I can make money from it…and I happen to come across it again this time. So please I really want to know, if it really works and all the proves are not just mere lies to get people clicking on there links, how long does it take to get money from it. Is it possible to make some reasonable money the same month I upgrade to premium?
18. CraigsList – Some things don’t ship very well. Other things may make you feel uncomfortable to sell to someone across the country. Anytime you’re selling a large item or something you just don’t want to ship, Craigslist is a great place to go. It’s simple to list your item (again, take good pictures!). If you don’t like the idea of putting your phone number out there, the interested individual can send you a message to your inbox without even getting your email address.
I joined WA and it was really helpful in the beginning because I was new to Affiliate Marketing. I haven’t given up on affiliate marketing, and I am currently learning how to piece together my own resources that seem more up to date. This has given me piece of mind and I feel this will provide more stability. I do see a lot of people promoting WA by comparing them to other similar programs. Craig’s review is very refreshing and spot on. Thank you Craig.
Research other listings in your city on AirBnB and see what the going rate is for a place like yours. You could also just rent out a private room as well or even a bed in a shared room. In fact, that's how AirBnB got its start. However, you might find it hard in the beginning without reviews, but as long as you take really good care of your guests and provide a lot of value, the reviews will eventually come rolling in.
Unbelievable. Well It’s just as believeable which ever way you look at it, so much deception it feels like. And I do get a feeling that these are just automated responses from fake people at times, not like I’m saying it’s true but some of these responses I receive in a comment I would rather not even bother replying back to sometimes. It’s likee you get a third of everything…1/3 beginners feeling happy for an accomplishment share, 1/3 for keep staying motivated and the 1/3 need help…but they’re never centered on how to really do it because it’s the beginners telling beginners what to do, or people who are “experts” spitting out the same over and over info.

 First and foremost, I found this while doing research on these on line work from home business. I am just kind of put off with your review because honestly they way you described your actions and attitude to the company in general, I would have reacted in much the same way but I would not have been as nice about it. Let's face it....you were rude. You know what they say, "you get what you give. I don't think anyone out there who has out the time and effort into creating such a training program would be okay with any one skipping ahead to what they think they need. You came off like a know it all and nobody likes that. So in my opinion, you tried something, it didn't work so, you didn't get your way and so basically this is your rendition of throwing a tantrum...grow up!!!!
Yes, there is a lot to learn. I personally, have been willing to learn and do a lot of research in addition to the courses in WA to gain better understanding of things. I do that because I have the determination to not quit. I have been a member since 2015 and no, I have not had any earnings. However, I also recognize that I still have a lot of work to do and my inability to get some things completed sometimes can keep me from moving forward (like promoting via social media). But, I’m working on my own schedule going at my own pace and that is okay with me.
There is nothing that I mentioned here that is not true. Mind you, I just noticed that you have been a Wealthy Affiliate member for a short period of time. WA is not a get rich quick scheme, you’ll need to invest, be hardworking and work towards your goals. All that takes time. Don’t tell me that sharing my story how I struggled for 11 months is promising people easy money. No!
Craig. Don’t care if you publish this comment or not but this needs to be said. You are a tool. A fuck-wit. A stupid moronic poophead. A no good idiotic piece of rodent poo. You should be silenced…gagged, water-boarded and smacked in the head with a blunt object. Get out of your mother’s basement, turn off the internet kiddie porn, put out your blunt and go outside for some fresh air dude, I think your brain is fried. Cheers, Rachael
As for where I made the pyramid scheme analysis, it may be stretching it a bit far, but Investopedia says it well, “If the recruit gets 10 more people to invest, he or she will make a profit with just a small investment.” Sound a lot like getting a person to join Wealthy Affiliate, though I’d be fine if it was just a product and nothing else. Sure it may offer all of those resources like keyword research and hosting, but that’s just the bread of a hamburger, meaning the true “meat” of the program is the fact that it teaches you how to build an online “business” in which you are an affiliate for certain products. May even be a bit like MLM, but instead of the participants who recently joined receiving a smaller percentage of the money in which they got others to join (WA gives half, I’ll recognize that), they will still struggle in the end trying to build a website and generate traffics to have products bought through them in such a saturated market. Such reality cannot be downplayed in a review for Wealthy Affiliate.
Now may I know if you ever heard about shopmozo.co I’m a member of this new-launched e-commerce site (but didn’t purchase the referral rights). They offer one-time membership but with too much upselling. It seems promising though and I want to recommend it to friends but I am thinking twice if it is worth it. Also because all the reviews I read about it are from affiliates.
High-ticket consulting or coaching: You could sell your own high-ticket consulting or coaching products from your website. You'll still need a website, merchant account, sales funnel, lead magnet and many other items. But you can easily earn a substantial amount of money from each individual customer, making it well worth the arduous setup required. 
Join a startup accelerator: Another great option is to apply to a startup accelerator like Y Combinator, 500 startups, or TechStars, where a group of investors will help coach you, connect you with potential partners, and provide startup cash in return for a small stake in your company. The competition is tough to get into these, so don’t rely on them as your only path forward.

I make the bulk of my money from blogging. In addition to the advertising revenue streams mentioned above, I also receive flat rate payments for blogging from various blogs throughout the web. I’m paid to write as a whistleblower, financial analyst, reviewer, commentator, and more. Writing for other sites builds traffic to my personal blog. The traffic for this blog gives me clout to present to advertisers.


I am new to this website and the funny thing is that l was looking for an objective analysis on starting an Amazon affiliate site. Your review on this issue is the BEST that i have ever seen in the last 3 years. This article was a joy to read. It was detailed, honest and very hard hitting especially when you are trying to get readers to understand that they MUST diversify their traffic sources and STOP relying on getting to first page on Google. As a result of reading your article l am changing my digital marketing services, affiliate marketing and , e-commerce strategy. I look forward to hearing new and innovative ideas from you on internet marketing. Keep up the great work!!!
– Project Payday is one of those sites that has testimonials of people who have earned thousands of dollars by getting paid to get trial offers. I’m not saying you’ll earn thousands, but it is legit and you can earn some extra cash. They assume that by paying you to do a free trial, you’ll either like the product and purchase it, or forget to cancel the trial and get charged for it. If you can keep track and cancel before you get charged (if you don’t want the product), then this is a great site for making some money.
I have been following the video’s on Youtube involving Income school, and i am quite astonished at the information that the 2 founders have compiled and are freely showing. They are displaying some really good advice and facts, backed up by actual evidence that i think that anyone serious about learning internet marketing should have a look at. When you see what they have to offer i think you will be quite surprised. The best part about it is that there are 2 actual live persons that you can see and hear and not just a voice behind a microphone .
Considering that you have a finite amount of time, passive income should make up a large part of your work. If you're serious about generating any semblance of income online, then passive income should be one of your sole goals and ambitions. Why? Wouldn't you prefer to do the work one time and get paid repeatedly as opposed to relying on your time to generate that income? Invest the time at the front-end so that you can reap the benefits on the back-end. This means putting in a bit of sweat equity and not getting paid today. Rather, you'll get paid somewhere down the road. And you'll continue getting paid whether you keep building that passive income stream or you stop. 
If you want the full story, you can check out my about me page (it’s a pretty cool story if I may say so myself). The short version is that I got started with affiliate marketing back in 2009 and was able to go full-time in 2011. I now own more than a dozen websites in several different niche industries. You can see a listing of most of my sites at RogersConcepts.com.

Good to hear from you man. I couldn’t agree any more, continuous writing and not being rewarded for it in the ways you want can be very disappointing. I’ve never heard of Textbroker until now, I’ll make sure to give them a look, I’m glad you brought that up. Yeah, I was reading through a couple of your comments in this article and it sounds like WA had that direct linking system back when they were starting out, and then grew into blogging. Those are the two systems of affiliate marketing-one for direct linking and doing as many niches as you’d like, while the other WA claims is a “long term business” to stick to one niche and build out your links through articles, reviews, etc. Great points, WA does make it seem like you didn’t try hard enough to breach your success, and the same goes for the people there…
There are quite literally hundreds of clever ways to make money online. From taking online surveys, to renting or selling your old clothes, flipping your iPhone to someone in a different country, and even buying low-cost products locally, just to resell them for a higher price on Amazon. There’s truly no shortage of unique ways to make money online.

So many people dream of writing a book, but never go through with it. Yet no matter what, I’m sure you have experience and value you could give through writing a book. By packaging your skills and knowledge into a downloadable eBook that helps people learn a skill, advance their careers, or start a businesses, you can change someone’s life and even make good money online.
I recently became an Amazon Associate and set up an Amazon Store. Are there affiliate marketers who would promote my store on a commission-only basis? I could set up a unique tracking ID for them and they would receive a portion of the commissions I receive from Amazon. My store is worthless without traffic so I would be happy to share the commissions. I would like to spend my time creating and maintaining more stores and turn over the promotion of them to someone who is good at that.
I’m just getting started in IM, no, actually what I should have said is I’ve just started reading up on what IM is….for what i see in WA, I cant get my head round to seeing a tangible product. Craig here is a clever writer, giving you the “i’m a good guy” by telling you it’s not plain sailing, this much is true – he gets you nodding your head saying to yourself – see, I knew some of the make money stuff wasn’t going to be easy, he gets you to agree that it can be fruitful but you gotta get the work done, then he drops in his link with an offer to help you. Craig is a good wordsmith and based on what he has written here and with his link drop in, I would be more likely to sign up under his link than many other reviewers, why ?….because he’s doing it right by telling you the way it is, and he’s in business to make money. Nothing at all wrong with giving some honest advice and saying, hey, if you’re going to sign up, do it as one of my downlines. Now, to post this, I need to add my email address, good work Craig, your list now has one more added. All the best from Bonnie Scotland.
Sorry I wasn’t clear I forgot I was addressing the very reason the gene pool needs a lifeguard. You must be hurting yourself by overthinking things. I will put you out of your misery. My reasoning for what I said is that I just don’t like you. Simple as that. I think you are very, very stupid. That’s all there is to it. The fact that you posted my comment has nothing to do with guts. It will very likely bring you a little attention which is the only reason you’ve published it. And Malcolm, you sir, are an oxygen thief! If laughter is the best medicine your face must be curing the world! I love what you’ve done with your hair. How did you get it to grow from your nostrils like that? Sorry, I must be “displaying my lack of intelligence” but then, how else would you understand me?
I would also like to see a forum built into the platform. Wealthy Affiliate has a unique way of building a community and I understand why they shy away from a standard forum type of format. Instead, they want to promote live chat sessions, blog posts, private messaging, and public questions where people can comment below. This type of setup is pretty cool at times, but I also do enjoy forums where I can just browse by topic.
5. Fiverr – Fiverr is a great place to make a few bucks or spend a few bucks if you need some of the services people offer. Basically, everything is $5. You either pay $5 or charge $5. They call them “gigs.” You can offer your services however you choose. If you sell art and you’re fine selling pieces for $5 each, that’s a gig. If you’re a graphic designer and you want to offer your services for $10/hour, simply offer a 30 minute gig. If they need two hours of graphic design, they pay you $20, or $10/hour by buying four gigs.

A blog highlights your technical ability and showcases your ability to write blog posts. Your blog can be about different topics than those you write about for your clients. In fact, it should be on a topic that interests you. Visitors will see that you can not only write, but you can also build an online community. A good blog has the potential to earn you many referrals for more clients.[24]
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I know for a fact that English is not the first language of my “sponsor” and got several automated messages from him. I actually challenged him at his own website about WA several weeks ago using my own name and any negative comment that I made have now been removed from his sales page. Direct messages sent to him can produce some interesting answers as he clearly does not understand English. So in conclusion, I have enjoyed most of my dealings related to WA, although they can become annoying at times. If anyone is gullible enough to part with their money to spend on such a charade, they only have themselves to blame. I just glad that I was never infected even though I thought about it once upon a time. Now I have no doubts and will continue with my own “proper job”. 😂
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